What exactly is involved to convert G1 Hero ROMs to Magic?

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TommyPickles

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Do pray tell so that we can convert them ourselves rather than having to wait for an update to 1.4 of Fatality's Hero (been two weeks?).

Rather than having to depend on one person, we should share our knowledge so that we can all contribute.
 

WebghostDK

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I agree. Fatality has done a great job on the ROM, it's just way too slow :(
Hope you guys can figure it out and help the rest of us out :)
 

D3NNY

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I am also very intrested in how to do this. It is also defiantly possible as I have seen the superhero Rom for g1 ported to the magic.
 

TommyPickles

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I did a little bit of experimenting myself. I found that I could flash Superhero and JAC without any modification onto the ION phone. I did notice some things not working such as wifi and bluetooth plus calls did not hear my voice. ie. It is not stable or usable long-term.

In many ways this makes sense since it is for the same OS, same manufacturer but perhaps some things are different on the motherboard. I therefore assume some things get swapped around such as the Magic wlan.ko into the package. A clarification on this would be greatly appreciated.
 

TommyPickles

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Okay seems like nobody is responding, which is disappointing.

I'm going to go ahead and flash JACHero 2.63 - Fully Optimized HTCHero 7/11/09 4:00PM and place it on my Google ION

Will report in and let you know what happens. I'm willing to bet it will work fine but with a few hiccupy problems.
 

TommyPickles

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I wrote a very long ranting post but instead I have self-moderated myself on this reply.

Let me just say the two words you want to hear: It works.

And let me just say this: It's embarrasing that in an android development forum those who have knowledge that could empower the community do not let people know such basics as what is involved with building the phone rom for a particular handset. There are too many ROM builds now to justify waiting on one person releasing an update.

I will withhold further judgement of those who are 'converting' G1 ROMs to Magic until I know it works perfectly as I have had issues when experimenting with an old Hero G1 rom with phone calls (caller could not hear my voice). In which case I respectfully withdraw any assertations.

But I have tested Haykuros IONr for G1, JACHero and SuperHero ROM. All for G1s. Yet they all worked (at least in terms of booting, phone synch to google account, etc) fine on my Google ION.

You do not need to 'convert' them for them to work. I had standard engineering SPL available from here and standard radio.

ie.
SAPPHIRE PVT 32B ENG-SOFF G
HBOOT-1.33.2004 (SAPP30000)
RADIO-2.22.19.26I

Cheers
TommyPickles
 

TommyPickles

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davec26 i will eat my hat if it does not work. what phone type you have btw? and bootloader/radio? and what rom you installing?

if you cant remember and its in middle of flash just whatever details you have will do :)
 

davec26

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JACHero 2.63 - Fully Optimized HTCHero on htc magic vodafone report .....
ok boot time is normal (well slow normal)
usb devise recognised by pc right away 1.1 sec lol
boot screen loaded ok 30 secs
hanging on htc
waiting 1min
waiting 1min 30
waiting lol 1 min 45
waiting 1min 55 :confused:
still hanging on htc 2min 20
taking battery out and rebooting that way

ok battery out turned on
boot screen up 1min 1 sec
and on hero screen 1 min 20
ok booted into menu just for a few tests :D
 

TommyPickles

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glad to hear it works too.

fyi it is much, much safer to let it take its time on the HTC screen. id be worried if something bad happend because you pulled the battery our prematurely.

this delay is standard on most phone roms when you install them. and as always, wipe before you flash.

let me know how you go with your app tests. im experimenting at the moment. and thank you for also having the courage to test with me, davec26 :)
 

davec26

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ok in the set up menu running ok so far no lag noticed finished set up its now rebooting again .
boot screen ok 1.1min
menu booted ok 1 min 7 fast eh :D
menu pic is jachero loading thingy spinning round for 50 secs now into menu to test wifi bluetooth
menu is fast v fast no lag going into it .
scroll is v fast
auto cofig up for 3 uk
texts ok
ok not able to start wifi :confused:
bluetooth is ok turned on
all menu and settings ok but no wifi says can not turn on :D
 

TommyPickles

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3G works. GPS (both wireless network and GPS) works. Google Maps works. Email synch works. Twitter synch works. Android market works. App download and install works. For all intents and purposes, the phone is operational. And may I say, DAMN its fast compared to Fatality's weeks old Magic build.

I'll try WiFi in a moment. I think thats where it will fall down, and possibly bluetooth and phone calls. As its 1:35am I probably cant call anyone lol.

Here's where we need to work as a community though: The wifi issue is known even on G1 builds. It is a matter of replacing key components in the package to suit Magic. We should know what to replace and why. In this way we are empowered to do it ourselves.
 

davec26

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3G works. GPS (both wireless network and GPS) works. Google Maps works. Email synch works. Twitter synch works. Android market works. App download and install works. For all intents and purposes, the phone is operational. And may I say, DAMN its fast compared to Fatality's weeks old Magic build.

I'll try WiFi in a moment. I think thats where it will fall down, and possibly bluetooth and phone calls. As its 1:35am I probably cant call anyone lol.

Here's where we need to work as a community though: The wifi issue is known even on G1 builds. It is a matter of replacing key components in the package to suit Magic. We should know what to replace and why. In this way we are empowered to do it ourselves.

ah ok calls are all fine just tested in and out
 

TommyPickles

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Confirmed: Wifi is not working. States it cannot turn on. Bluetooth appears to be working but as I have no device to test it cannot fully confirm.

But damn this is so, so much faster. Seriously I used to dread pressing the home button. At least a minute wait in the past. I cant believe how fast it is. And window transitions too. If you dont care about wifi then this rocks.

Now to test a phone call. Davec26 if its not too late in evening, got someone to call?
 

timmy1980

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OK, i'm going to give this a shot too.. curiosity has got the better of me! Has anyone tried pushing the wlan.ko from a working Magic Hero build to system/lib/modules ?
 

TommyPickles

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Just a thought: In the Fatality package it has the wireless packages that work from his build under \system\ because certainly thats where it'll be

If he could it would be great if he can post specifically mentioning what was required to change in order for Hero G1 builds to work on Magic.
Then it can become a sticky on a 'how to' people can download the latest builds anywhere and make them work on Magic.

That is unless we beat him to it. I suspect it will always be the same files or edits too, regardless of whether its Hero or plain cupcake.