[LIST] WP7 disadvantages And Solutions

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Dr.Mazika

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I am a big fan of WP7 waiting this from a year or more ... but i will not buy a device don't include a way to send or receive data between devices
this list is for make sure which is real ... which is fake .. which is not important


WP7 disadvantages List

- No system-wide file manager

- No Bluetooth file transfers

- No USB mass storage mode
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- Running apps switcher[/FONT]


- Custom ringtones


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No copy/paste
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- GPS + Turn By Turn + Integration [/FONT]


- HTML5

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- Flash or Silverlight support in the web browser [/FONT]


- Cards not readable by computer
- Record calls & sounds
- Video Calling
- VoIP Calling
- No music player equalisers
- All sensors stuff

- MyPhone Support
- search in contact

Must Have Apps List
* IM Application ( Numbuzz.. facebook,WLM,Skype ....... chat )
* Interface
(Something like CHT)
* E-Book (Collect PDF From ur memory and arrange it to be easily readed)
* FM Transmitter
* RingTone Creator
* Quick Call
 
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Omega Ra

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Main disadvantages
No system-wide file manager only a disadvantage to people like us, most people don't care
No videocalling
Limited third-party apps availability
No Bluetooth file transfers Without the file manager this is kinda pointless
No USB mass storage mode see previous answer
No multitasking it is there in a limited fashion, though right now only for the windows stuff (Zune, IE etc) but may be opened up to others in the future
No copy/paste slated to be in the first update in early (Jan) 2011
Too dependent on Zune software for computer file management and syncing I actually like this one, Zune can handle pictures, music, video, podcasts...what more do you need really?
No music player equalisers I'm sure someone will come up with an app.
No Flash or Silverlight support in the web browser it will be there eventually.
No sign of free Bing maps Navigation so far I hope this comes along soon, rumor is in the first update in Jan.
No DivX/XviD video support I'm not even sure what these file formats are as I have never needed them.
No internet tethering support this will probably have to be through an app from the carrier sadly.
New ringtones available only through the Marketplace I don't know where people heard this one...
Swapping memory card requires hard reset; cards not readable by computer from what I hear this is true, the memory is exandable, but not removable...

Which is true with is faulse ?
Which will fixed by later updates ?

see the red answers above.
 

Omega Ra

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this is true, but it is confirmed about the copy/paste, rumored about the nav. MS wanted to have a nice stable solid base OS before they went crazy with the options I am guessing.
 

Dr.Mazika

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* is there is a file manager ...but not system-wide ... or no file manager at all
* Bluetooth file transfers ... is this mean i can't send or receives files by bluetooth ? so how can i share files / picture/music ... with my friends
 

RustyGrom

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* is there is a file manager ...but not system-wide ... or no file manager at all
* Bluetooth file transfers ... is this mean i can't send or receives files by bluetooth ? so how can i share files / picture/music ... with my friends
The only "file manager" is the zune desktop app which manages media. There is no way to access files/folders on the phone. Each app has it's own isolated file system.
Email/SMS. I've never heard of anyone ever using bluetooth file transfers.
 

Omega Ra

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The only "file manager" is the zune desktop app which manages media. There is no way to access files/folders on the phone. Each app has it's own isolated file system.
Email/SMS. I've never heard of anyone ever using bluetooth file transfers.

On rare occasion I have done BT file transfer, usually when I am sending a .cab from my phone to my sisters or something, but that is a rarity.
 

chubnut

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You're joking right? I use BT file transfers pretty regularly. From my phone to my laptops and other phones. In fact last time I used it was just a few days ago to send some ring tones to a friend's mobile.

So I guess by saying there is no BT transfers means MS have gone down the Apple route of locking down the BT to just headsets and handsfree kits or am I mistaken in that assumption?
 

RustyGrom

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Never used it, never had the inclination to use it, never heard of anyone using it. Why not just email or SMS whatever it is you're trying to send?

"The provided Bluetooth profiles are Hand-Free Profile (HFP), Headset Profile (HSP), Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP), and Phone Book Access Profile (PBAP)."
 

Phone Titan

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I think a major disadvantage is the fact that they have not even integrated HTML5 into their browser as even the iPhone has that. Hopefully more sites will use HTML5 instead of Flash as I have an Android device and I find flash to be quite slow and buggy at times. Its good that they have announced that they will be bringing c&p as thats a needed feature.
 
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Omega Ra

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I think a major disadvantage is the fact that they have not even integrated HTML5 into their browser as even the iPhone has that. Hopefully more sites will use HTML5 instead of Flash as I have an Android device and I find flash to be quite slow and buggy at times. Its good that they have announced that they will be bringing c&p as thats a needed feature.

I am sure the html5 and silverlight will make it's way into the browser, they just want to get it functional and solid first. Can't have EVERYTHING right away. I think what is there now is a great foundation.
 

gom99

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I think a major disadvantage is the fact that they have not even integrated HTML5 into their browser as even the iPhone has that. Hopefully more sites will use HTML5 instead of Flash as I have an Android device and I find flash to be quite slow and buggy at times. Its good that they have announced that they will be bringing c&p as thats a needed feature.

I don't see how that's a major disadvantage given that we live in real reality and not Job's reality. HTML 5 will be important one day...today isn't that day. It's not ready for primetime. IE9 will start to be ported over into wp7, I'd be shocked if it's not up by the end of next year, and HTML5 still won't be a prevalent force on the web by then either.

Also, once they expand the API or allow other browser developers to get native access, then we may very well see HTML5 via those browsers.
 

charm1718

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I wonder what kind of security apps Microsoft will allow. I would like an app like Throttle lock on my phone over a pin # lock.

No USB mass storage or being able to swap out sd cards without hard resetting is an inconvenience. I'm often at a friend house and may want a file that's too big to email. It's easier to insert my card into their laptop, drag & drop a 5 gb file in the proper place on my sd card & take it home to place on my pc later. If some takes a long hd video with a flip cam, I rather them place it on my sd card than have them burn it to disc or shrink it & email it.

Copy & Paste is supposed to be available by the time Sprint gets a WM7 phone so I cant complain about that.

Too dependant on Zune software is an issue when wanting files from someone else PC that doesnt have Zune software.

No internet tethering support is a big issue for me.

Flash support isn't an issue if they allow 3rd party browsers, I would use Skyfire for WM7 if there is one available by the Sprint launch.

Dvix/Xvid support would be a plus but not a deal breaker.

Silverlight would be a plus as well but not a deal breaker either.

With no system wide file explorer, does that mean there will be no way to hide certain pics & videos from being found by someone else looking into the phone?
 

doministry

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USB mass storage and file explorer are very important on my list. This is quite a disappointment.

Just look at Engadget review.

Basically everything what was described before.
Lack of multitasking to crazy extent - 3rd party apps are OFF even after just lockscreen.

Apps are also buggy, the ones from Marketplace.
Copy & Paste.........

You can't escape those things.
 

lip

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Just look at Engadget review.

Basically everything what was described before.
Lack of multitasking to crazy extent - 3rd party apps are OFF even after just lockscreen.

Apps are also buggy, the ones from Marketplace.
Copy & Paste.........

You can't escape those things.

The app thing is a bit crazy if true...we'll have to wait a bit longer as other reviewers are not saying the same thing...
 

doministry

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Never used it, never had the inclination to use it, never heard of anyone using it. Why not just email or SMS whatever it is you're trying to send?

"The provided Bluetooth profiles are Hand-Free Profile (HFP), Headset Profile (HSP), Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP), and Phone Book Access Profile (PBAP)."

Sorry mate but what kind of idiotic argument it is??!!
If I stand next to somebody or next to my own computer and want to send a file
why the hell should I email this?! I send it by BT! It's simpler, faster and OBVIOUS SINCE WE HAVE 2010, and bluetooth is known for ages!

It's hilarious you're trying to justify every stupid limitation by MS,
and if you're not having argument than you say you don't use it.

Knock knock. Most of the people never had inclination to use a smartphone,
should we abandon this?
 
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doministry

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The app thing is a bit crazy if true...we'll have to wait a bit longer as other reviewers are not saying the same thing...

You don't think they've made it up, do you?
Sad, but that may be possible that the really functional WP7 will be available around end of 2011.
I won't wait that long. And many users once they find the limitations won't hesitate from switching.
 

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    The fact that it already isn't. Logic and common sense dictates that if you have an inferior product against a superior one, the customer will go for the superior one...

    Sure, if the world was full of engineers. But it is not. In the real world there is no such thing as a superior and inferior product.

    Would you call the first, second, and third iteration of the iPod any better than the Creative Zen and SanDisk Sansa alternatives? Most people that compare specs would have told you the iPods were crap. Yet the 90% marketshare suggests that maybe that is not the selling point.

    Is the iPhone better than your wonderful Android phone?

    I find tech people to be like the Borg. No humanity. No individuality. Absolute.

    You know why someone will choose Windows Phone over Android? Because Windows Phone is not Android. Android does not look like Windows Phone. It does not behave like Windows Phone. To you that means someone prefers an inferior product, but we are a world full of individuals and one size does not fit all.
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    The fact that it already isn't. Logic and common sense dictates that if you have an inferior product against a superior one, the customer will go for the superior one...unless they are just self destructive and resource wasteful.

    You are not taking into account a customer's wants and needs from the device.

    WP7 has a superior UI, superior social networking integration, and superior camera accessibility. What if that is what a customer finds important?

    More features doesn't mean "superior" to everyone. Especially if the typical non-techie customer doesn't want or use those features.

    Are you really unable to put yourself in other peoples shoes and acknowledge that different people may actually have different needs?

    Saying the competition didn't have those features at launch isn't a viable excuse. The fact is, the competition currently has all of the desired features.

    All I am pointing out is that casual users don't see those features as important as power users do. And casual users won't use the presence or lack of those features as their primary focus when buying a device.

    It would be proper and wise of MS to launch a product with, at a minimum, all of the currently available features. To not do that, and then also to push out as far as possible any updates that would bring those features, and to be so miserly about dishing out updates and features, is foolish and irrational.

    It's not foolish or irrational at all. The world doesn't revolve around you or people like you.

    Would it have been awesome if all those features were present at launch? Absolutely. But MS made a conscious decision to launch now instead of delaying another year or so.

    There are only so many resources dedicated to WP7, and those resources have to be managed. They couldn't be everything to everyone on day one. Or even day 60, or 90, or 200.

    MS has already stated that they are targeting causal consumers right now. Power features will be added as they come. It's not like they are choosing to gimp their OS just for the sake of annoying people like you.

    When the features are ready and tested, they'll be deployed.

    Until then, power users are better off somewhere else.

    It shows they are not in touch with reality if they even have a spark of a thought of actually competing with the competition.

    Reality? The reality is that it wouldn't make business sense to wait another two years to add every feature under the sun before releasing the OS, when there are casual users out there that would be happy to use it the way it is right now.

    This tells me the system is doomed. They seem to be saying, "Screw it, we will do what we want and not what the consumer wants".

    Something tells me that you're a glass half empty kind of guy. Something also tells me that you're not a business major, or business minor, or have even run a successful lemonade stand.

    They have a target customer for now. That target customer just isn't YOU. And for some reason you seem to have taken it personally.

    I have no confidence in WP7 because of what they have done. I don't believe my HD7 will ever be as sophisticated as the competition because of such irrational business tactics. You say, "It's been 2 months". Exactly! Two months of not having features that every other smartphone in the market have. Features that should have been in the system at launch. "2 months" is outrageous! I, *the customer*, will not stand for that!.

    Instead of throwing a fit, you should have done your research and purchased a device that met your needs. Now you're trying to blame Microsoft for your own mistake.

    You are not Microsoft's target customer.

    Will Microsoft target techies in the future? Maybe. But not for now. Writing software takes time, and they can't get all the features out and tested fast enough for people like you. But that doesn't mean that there aren't a bunch of people out there that would be very happy with their offering.

    Different people have different needs. And the sooner you accept that, the better the chance that you'll stop freaking out.
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    I am a big fan of WP7 waiting this from a year or more ... but i will not buy a device don't include a way to send or receive data between devices
    this list is for make sure which is real ... which is fake .. which is not important


    WP7 disadvantages List

    - No system-wide file manager

    - No Bluetooth file transfers

    - No USB mass storage mode
    [FONT=&quot]
    - Running apps switcher[/FONT]


    - Custom ringtones


    -
    No copy/paste
    [FONT=&quot]
    - GPS + Turn By Turn + Integration [/FONT]


    - HTML5

    [FONT=&quot]
    - Flash or Silverlight support in the web browser [/FONT]


    - Cards not readable by computer
    - Record calls & sounds
    - Video Calling
    - VoIP Calling
    - No music player equalisers
    - All sensors stuff

    - MyPhone Support
    - search in contact

    Must Have Apps List
    * IM Application ( Numbuzz.. facebook,WLM,Skype ....... chat )
    * Interface
    (Something like CHT)
    * E-Book (Collect PDF From ur memory and arrange it to be easily readed)
    * FM Transmitter
    * RingTone Creator
    * Quick Call
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    Never used it, never had the inclination to use it, never heard of anyone using it. Why not just email or SMS whatever it is you're trying to send?

    "The provided Bluetooth profiles are Hand-Free Profile (HFP), Headset Profile (HSP), Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP), and Phone Book Access Profile (PBAP)."

    Sorry mate but what kind of idiotic argument it is??!!
    If I stand next to somebody or next to my own computer and want to send a file
    why the hell should I email this?! I send it by BT! It's simpler, faster and OBVIOUS SINCE WE HAVE 2010, and bluetooth is known for ages!

    It's hilarious you're trying to justify every stupid limitation by MS,
    and if you're not having argument than you say you don't use it.

    Knock knock. Most of the people never had inclination to use a smartphone,
    should we abandon this?
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    does that mean i have to install some apps first on my pc to be able to sync and organize files on wp7?

    No, it means you cannot sync and organize files on wp7.