[GPU] Tegra 2 vs Exynos

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So in conclusion,
Tegra 2 is good for gaming, but poor in HD video decoding.
Exynos is good in video decoding but poor in gaming.
 
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So in conclusion,
Tegra 2 is good for gaming, but poor in HD video decoding.
Exynos is good in video decoding but poor in gaming
 
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Bilhouse said:
I have a Motorola Xoom
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Nice, the tablet itself looks really nice...i like that type of design.

Im due an upgrade and have been checking this out recently...the new samsung chip rocks. As far as Im aware, its the first time the mali400 gpu (quad!!) has been used in a mobile device,

apple decided to stick with PowerVR and opted for the dual core PowerVR SGX 543MP2.

htc (Sensation) went for the dualcore snapdragon with the Adreno 220

I guess we need to wait till more people have these devices before a proper call can be made as alot of the tech used hasnt been used before. But, I think its between the sgs2 and the ipad2/iphone5
 
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Tegra 2 doesnt look that powerful! I have seen many videos of the dhd vs 2x, they arent that far of in the browsing test! Only a 1-2 sec difference! Same with the atrix! Tegra 2 isnt that powerful after all?! The 1ghz snapdragon cpu is quite enough already!

As many ppl say... You cant make a os faster at top speed Already!


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olyloh6696 said:
Tegra 2 doesnt look that powerful! I have seen many videos of the dhd vs 2x, they arent that far of in the browsing test! Only a 1-2 sec difference! Same with the atrix! Tegra 2 isnt that powerful after all?! The 1ghz snapdragon cpu is quite enough already!

As many ppl say... You cant make a os faster at top speed Already!


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yea it doesnt. Its already been toppled by the same GPU in the current galaxy s. LG knew Tegra 2 wasnt enough for what they needed, so they went with a dual core and a sgx540. Considering the benchmarks that are out already, this gpu is gonna rock
 
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Great news, the Netherlands is getting 1.2 ghz Exynos / SAMOLED+. Happiness!

powersupply said:
So in conclusion,
Tegra 2 is good for gaming, but poor in HD video decoding.
Exynos is good in video decoding but poor in gaming.
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Why would the Exynos be poor in gaming? The Exynos GPU is supposed to be quite a bit faster than Tegra 2's. Or do you think that those games "optimized for Tegra 2" will not work on Exynos? That would be a real bad idea from the publisher's wallet's perspective.

We can't know before testing both types of devices, but I think the Exynos will beat the Tegra 2 in gaming as well ;)
 
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I believe most of the markets will be getting exynos.. or at least I hope so... I feel like Samsung home made SOC is... I dunnu.. BETTER.. I hope I'll be getting it instead of tegra 2..
 
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Well lets just say that the Exynos is perhaps more in tune with the SGS II's UI and overall performance.

I think the gaming can be more optimized for the Mali chip, but lets see. If the SGS II becomes a universal hit with the Exynos, then more game makers will enhance their games for that chip.
 
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In reality dual-core SGX543>overclock Single-Core SGX 540> 8-core tegra 2> quad core mali 400

As much as i want mali 400 to be on top, but they are the very bottom of all the dual core phone. Its reality but i would still get SGS2 just for the screen
 
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tvp2411 said:
In reality dual-core SGX543>overclock Single-Core SGX 540> 8-core tegra 2> quad core mali 400

As much as i want mali 400 to be on top, but they are the very bottom of all the dual core phone. Its reality but i would still get SGS2 just for the screen
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Except that it isn't reality. The Odroid (Exynos/Mali400) easily beats the Optimus3D (SGX540) and Atrix 4G (Tegra2), and it's pushing a lot more pixels. Taking that into account, the Odroid even outbenches the iPad2 (SGX543) by 6%, making the Mali400 the king in mobile land in performance/pixel.

Keep in mind that the Odroid also pushes a lot more pixels than the SGS2 will, and the SGS2 will be clocked even higher. Often GPU clock is dependent on CPU clock, so...

I haven't seen benches for the new Qualcomm offering, but I don't really expect them to beat the Mali400 - not even sure if we should expect them to match the Tegra2 really.
 
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Except that it isn't reality. The Odroid (Exynos/Mali400) easily beats the Optimus3D (SGX540) and Atrix 4G (Tegra2), and it's pushing a lot more pixels. Taking that into account, the Odroid even outbenches the iPad2 (SGX543) by 6%, making the Mali400 the king in mobile land in performance/pixel.

Keep in mind that the Odroid also pushes a lot more pixels than the SGS2 will, and the SGS2 will be clocked even higher. Often GPU clock is dependent on CPU clock, so...

I haven't seen benches for the new Qualcomm offering, but I don't really expect them to beat the Mali400 - not even sure if we should expect them to match the Tegra2 really.
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well, it been told that the 3000 score benchmark is actually a 1.2ghz clock ticking SGS2..
 
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I hope i am wrong, Since i am getting SGS2 for the screen. But recent bench show SGS2 gpu is below par. Tegra 2 always outperform mali 400. let me find a recent bench...
 
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tvp2411 said:
In reality dual-core SGX543>overclock Single-Core SGX 540> 8-core tegra 2> quad core mali 400

As much as i want mali 400 to be on top, but they are the very bottom of all the dual core phone. Its reality but i would still get SGS2 just for the screen
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i'm no expert but i couldn't quite understand the logic behind Samsung going for Mali-400 if they know its worse than SGX540. They could have easily used the same GPU in hummingbird and overclock it in Exynos (just like OMAP4).
 
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It could have been many reason but they already bought mali. its either collect dust and spend more money on sgx or save money and use there own.
 
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It could have been many reason but they already bought mali. its either collect dust and spend more money on sgx or save money and use there own.
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That could well be the reason but i believe Samsung is smart enough not to make such move. Anyway these are only speculations and we'll wait to see the retail products before making any conclusions.
 
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    soraxd said:
    alright, so even if it is more powerful, what about this "nvidia game center" and all this im hearing about... all these custom tailored games for the tegra2 phones? will these games only play on tegra2 phones? or does that just mean they were made to be optimized for the tegra2?
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    'Optimized'..... They will work with Exynos and Mali but maybe not at the same framerate.
    The trouble is, until we get to see more details it is going to be difficult to prove the strength & weight of each chip.
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    All I know is Samsung are pouring a hell of a lot of cash into becoming the number one manufacturer.
    They don't do that by saving costs using a second-rate GPU and other hardware.

    Samsung know what they are doing, they have the figures not just for the SGSII but other phones as well.

    We have already seen them change the CPU to 1.2 which cost them a heck of a packet.
    Look what they did with the new Tablets..... they scrapped, redesigned and brought out two completely new Tablets in such a short time simply because they want to be seen as number 1.

    Their Amoled program actually is running at a loss but they still continue to pour further money into manufacturing these superb screens.
    They could take the easy financial option and use S-LCD but you don't get to be seen as the best by using poor rated equipment.
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    dinan said:
    Well for all it's worth... I remember a promo pic for the Galaxy 2 at MWC: http://st.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsimg/mwc-11-samsung/pc/gsmarena_009.jpg

    Claiming a 5x performance increase over the SGX540 from their Quad core Mali-400 will obliterate the ULV Geforce since the tegra2's chip can barely beat the SGX540 as it stands now. Of course this isn't real life performance numbers, samsung is just probably simply quoting how many triangles/sec each setup can push and taking the ratio, which doesn't always translate to real world usage.

    Either way, I have my money on samsung's quad core mali-400 over tegra 2. I have an Atrix, quite frankly it sucks, way below expectations. My Nexus S underclocked at 800mhz outperforms it in every 3D game I've tried. The Galaxy 2 will be my next phone. **** locked bootloaders and ****ty LCD screens, I'll live with slightly worse GPU performance for better ROM availability and SAMOLED plus. =)

    I just hope the poor tegra 2 performance in games is due to the games not being optimized for Tegra right now. I've tried a few of the tegra optimized games as well and they don't seem particularly better than other games, though...
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    The benchmarks are updated and Exynos at higher screen resolution has much better score now than Atrix, Xoom and Galaxy S.
    The score would be even higher at lower screen resolution.
    It just proves that benchmarks can be unreliable and it's better to test performance during
    normal usage of the released product.

    GL benchmark Odroid-A tablet with Exynos 4210 (Exynos 4210 is used in SGS2):
    http://www.glbenchmark.com/result.j...version=all&certified_only=2&brand=Hardkernel

    GL benchmark Galaxy S:
    http://www.glbenchmark.com/result.j...=0&version=all&certified_only=2&brand=Samsung

    Motorola Xoom and Atrix:
    http://www.glbenchmark.com/result.j...4&version=all&certified_only=2&brand=Motorola
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    With all the financial and development clout Samsung have I would think it rather strange if they took on both an inferior and lesser supported chip.

    Personally I am looking forward to Exynos being around and seeing how it develops over time.
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    Processors are made not exactly for a specific Mhz, in this case the Exynos is actually made to scale upto 1.6Ghz, samsung selling it at 1.2Ghz is not underclocking nor overclocking, its just how the CPU's are binned.
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