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MasterDomino

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Ankit Kabeer said:
I can see the jelly effect on right and my OP5 has same effect as on right.

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youre scrolling to fast try in distance of 1-2cm and do it moderately slowly just try to feel input lag and rebound then should be more visible but if we have lighter version of that "issue" it means we are just too sensitive to it i guess
 
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It's probably there on my phone but it's barely even noticeable. Heck, before today when I read about this issue, I didn't even notice it.

I guess on some phones it's very prominent.

On some phones it's not so prominent. Like mine

On yet other ones, it's not there at all - like those of a few other people here.

Or it could just be that I'm either hallucinating or just not 'trained' enough to notice such issues.

Mine was manufactured 06/12
 
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Is there any objective way to measure it?
Can we build an app that displays a grid, accelerate scrolling and film it with another device an then analize the jello effect?

Can be that different people perceive it differently?
Asking many people to test the same device maybe can help.
 
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https://youtu.be/tTDDvusVKo0
Someone posted this on the other thread and i can see the same effect as on mine its slight compared to the first published in this thread(answer: right phone, @Poeta correct me if iam wrong)

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Flint2 said:
Is there any objective way to measure it?
Can we build an app that displays a grid, accelerate scrolling and film it with another device an then analize the jello effect?

Can be that different people perceive it differently?
Asking many people to test the same device maybe can help.
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Yes everyone sees differently and now because of that we should stop caring about that cuz its not that big of a deal it can prolly be minimized by software lets just maybe end this and have fun with our phones :)

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cheesechocolate said:
Now I can even see it on the right video.

http://www.youtubemultiplier.com/5956cb50c5e86-oneplus-5-jello-comparison.php

Lol what to say of that!
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Mine was manufactured 06/02 soo date doesnt change anything, it just shows that its just us having well trained eyes n ****. soo idk if thats really that big of a deal anymore, if you dont look at it you wont notice it and in everyday usage is not noticeable at all, also it doesnt change anything in gaming or media consuming.
 
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I'm fed up with this issue. I've initiated a RMA request for a return while I'm within the 15 days window. I'm done with this phone.

What really irks me isn't the issue itself, but how OP keeps shoving everything under the rug and hoping that its customers are too dumb to notice. It's been the same story since the OPO and OP2. They are never going to change.

I encourage anyone reading this to do the same. Companies like this need to know they can't keep taking customers for idiots.
 
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I uploaded my scrolling effect video. Check it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILisM5dHCWo

I don't know if you'd call that jelly/jello or the absence of it, you be the judge.

Personally, I feel there may be the tiniest bit of this jelly effect which could very well be my imagination. Anyways, it's not something that would bother me in daily use.
 
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MasterDomino

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cheesechocolate said:
I uploaded my scrolling effect video. Check it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILisM5dHCWo

I don't know if you'd call that jelly/jello or the absence of it, you be the judge.

Personally, I feel there may be the tiniest bit of this jelly effect which could very well be my imagination. Anyways, it's not something that would bother me in daily use.
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Yes thats it exactly what i have noice soo it pretty much means we dont even need to rma unless we want to buy 5t later as a matter of fact it doesnt matter a lot as i said its just a small thing noone should give a damn about, like i said it doesnt really matter in daily use nor its really thst annoying its just there and you know about it which is the worst part soo dont focus on it its prolly your imagination ;)
 
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I just opened mine and it does show the jello effect, but I don't find it annoying. It is more or less the same as the video on the right (I did see it over there). I guess it will be solved sooner or later.

Having owned and returned both an S8 and S8+, this is minuscule. Both phones had a red tint and color uniformity issues. Besides the jello, the screen is absolutely great, 1080p and all.

Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk
 
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Second thought. Raised an RMA. I love the phone but probably it's a good idea to just wait for a few days so that they can sort their sh*t out.


Panel f5. Date 6/12

I can live with these 'defects' like camera and minor jelly and all. I'm just not sure what else will pop up once my 15 days return window expires.

You can always buy again.

P.S. I can still keep it. It's just that raising an RMA now gives me a little more time to make up my mind.
 
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BoboBrazil said:
Rma and wait. Eventually after a couple of months they will fix issue like yellow band on opo.
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I've done that but the problem is, I love the phone too much and seeing what all problems people are reporting, I'm just scared my next order may have an issue even worse than the jelly thing.

I don't have any major complaints with my current unit right now. Even the jelly thing is barely even noticeable. It's just the 15 day window that's made me raise the RMA.
 
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cheesechocolate said:
I've done that but the problem is, I love the phone too much and seeing what all problems people are reporting, I'm just scared my next order may have an issue even worse than the jelly thing.

I don't have any major complaints with my current unit right now. Even the jelly thing is barely even noticeable. It's just the 15 day window that's made me raise the RMA.
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I'm like you.
Love the phone ... but afraid of what will appear next :(

Only have issues with wi-fi connection but it easily is corrected in a next rom.

Next week I must decide as my 15 day window finishes on next friday! :(

Another thing that's holding me from RMA is what the hell will I buy after returning it??? :(:(:(:(
I don't like anything that's on the Android side right now :crying:
 
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cheesechocolate said:
I've done that but the problem is, I love the phone too much and seeing what all problems people are reporting, I'm just scared my next order may have an issue even worse than the jelly thing.

I don't have any major complaints with my current unit right now. Even the jelly thing is barely even noticeable. It's just the 15 day window that's made me raise the RMA.
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I'd keep it if you don't mind the display issue.

jvidia said:
I'm like you.
Love the phone ... but afraid of what will appear next :(

Only have issues with wi-fi connection but it easily is corrected in a next rom.

Next week I must decide as my 15 day window finishes on next friday! :(

Another thing that's holding me from RMA is what the hell will I buy after returning it??? :(:(:(:(
I don't like anything that's on the Android side right now :crying:
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Yeah nothing really good. Very few phones with unlockable bootloader now. Only other decent phone might be the htc u 11. I went back to a OnePlus one. Still runs smooth on lineage.
 
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The jelly effect is a lot more visible on FB than on most other apps. Probably because FB shows feed in rectangular blocks which are easily distorted. The difference between portrait and inverted scrolling is very clear and discernible.

Having said that, even there the effect is barely noticeable for most people.

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BoboBrazil said:
I'd keep it if you don't mind the display issue.


Yeah nothing really good. Very few phones with unlockable bootloader now. Only other decent phone might be the htc u 11. I went back to a OnePlus one. Still runs smooth on lineage.
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That's a very thought-provoking Q.

If not Oneplus 5, then what?

I want Stock Android, Fast, Great battery, front fingerprint sensor, decent loudspeaker, good enough audio output, price proportionate to the features.

Frankly, not many options out there.
 
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marvi0 said:
Does the jello thingy only happen when scrolling up?
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Scrolling up, down even side scrolling. It's not equal for all so if you buy it, good luck. You have 15 days to return it but be carefull to not lose the window because it seems that they have started to evade the returns in some way to gain time. If you lose it, probably, you'll taste the jelly flavor forever.

I still can't use the links in the post but you can copy this in google and find it: reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/6kifef/submitted_a_return_request_and_heres_what_i_got/

The are several users since last night receiving the same answer.
 
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cultofluna said:
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He started CSR Racing 1 in OP 5 and CSR Racing 2 in OP 3T, not fair, LoL. But overall in the rest pretty similar in both devices. I even like more OP 3T design. OP 3T is one of those I'm considering although i'll wait until August or even IFA to compare all the new 2017 models with the ones from last year in quality/price and then buy the one I'll consider better.
 
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    eng.stk
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    eng.stk said:
    It's the same panel (better say a variant of the panel), but what people don't know is that it seems it's mounted inverted on the OP5. So this wobbly effect seems to manifest more because of this condition.
    I noticed this when evaluating some stuff on the source code I could backport to the 3T.
    Let's hope it's just a weird overlay panel calibration or something similar and not a processing issue from design choices.
    Only time will tell.
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    I've been reading some stuff about this jelly thing, so for sake of completion.
    Attached are the main differences on the s6e3fa5 panel code on the OP3T and on the OP5. And yes the matrix is inverted comparing to OP3T and this alters the way refresh and other stuff are processed.
    If you find hard to believe, just merge the OP5 panel code on the OP3T kernel and voila: you'll get your image inverted (upside down) on the OP3T after boot.
    The s6e3fa3 panel variant (present in OP3 and some OP3T) also has this code change on the OP5 source (they should have used that panel variant in early development stages but it's not present on release because lacks DCI-P3 support and so on).
    The thing I'm curious to see is if the OP5 only variant s6e3fa6 panel has the effect less noticeable. That could explain why people see it less or more.
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    Abhi Dahiya
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    Seriously? Unfair criticism? They've installed the panel upside down, it's terrible engineering and quality control. Then you have the faked benchmarks, the fake 2x optical zoom, no OIS etc etc etc. If One Plus wants to be amongst the big players they need to seriously up their game. Theyre in danger of becoming another Chinese phone company that doesn't deliver. If any phone company does rubbish like this they should be called out, not given a pass because they're "cheaper" or you like them.
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    It's not a hardware fault. Period! OP5 screen is also working as any other screen would. Turn any phone upside down and see it. We can't really call it terrible engineering or QC issue. Amazon India has sold tens of thousands of units of OP5. Not even a single review out there is complaining of Jelly Issue. I am not saying it's not there, it's there, i see it, but majority out there doesn't. Neither they have any problem with it. Out of XDA nobody cares about it.

    Faked benchmark ? Really ? OnePlus is utilising the same mechanism in their OP5's day to day use. Everytime an app is opened on OP5, all cores go full throttle unlike other phones, so they are showcasing in benchmarks what their phone does in real life.

    Fake 2x optical Zoom ? Didn't OnePlus itself clarify it that it's 1.6x ? No ? And it's still a lossless 2X zoom as Ever as OP has implemented. There is no loss in image quality moving to 2x zoom.

    No OIS ? SO what ? Did OnePlus ever claim they have provided OIS in OP5 ? Smoking a joint ?

    Big players ? Like Samsung ? Lied about UFS 2.1 storage and when found some units are shipping with 2.0, quietly took down listing from their website! Like how S8/+ came suffering from heavily tinted Red/Pink screens(HW fault) and tried to pass it with SW update which actually didn't solve the issue ? Like how they still suck at Ram Management ? My Redmi Note 3 holds more apps in it's 3gb ram compared to Samsung's flagship 4gb ram phones. From S4 days to S8, it's been 4 years, yet their ram management is as pathetic as ever, worst in the industry. And not to mention their absolutely laggy phones. Even the likes of Honor 8 Pro with last year's hardware are beating S8 in Speed! Infact S7 Edge was a step in the right direction but with S8/+ the lag is so pronounced it starts appearing from the very 1st use.

    Like Lg V20 ? Whose camera lens started breaking on it's own for no reason ? And their history of bootlooping devices from flagships to low end phones ?

    Like Apple ? Who call it an user fault for poor network reception ? Like how their phones started bending even under a little force ?

    Who to learn from ? Who are the industry leaders ? Up their game in equivalent to whom ?
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    Nitemare3219
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    Noticed this as soon as I setup the phone. I don't think I've ever seen an AMOLED panel do this. It's almost like it's refreshing each line of pixels too slowly/unevenly during a single frame?

    Here's an album of images and video captured from 240 FPS video. View them one after another. The screen refreshes by starting in the bottom left corner and finishes the frame in the top right corner... the icons and text on each line of apps goes out of alignment as I scroll.

    Text and elements on the screen stretches out when scrolling down, and smushes together when scrolling up. Straight lines look wavy when scrolling left or right as well!

    https://goo.gl/photos/Rx8nZCnzj8jSWXGJ7

    https://goo.gl/photos/iwi5JdruMAveRkFN8

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/128561298@N02/sets/72157682480018604
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    ultramag69
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    Nah, its a FEATURE.....
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    EVR_PR
    EVR_PR
    And it's a wrap fellas:

    https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-states-jelly-scrolling-effect-is-not-a-defect/
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